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      alfredosian commented  · 

      Dear Admin,

      Unfortunately a thumb up doesn't even out a thumb down.

      For example a thumb down + thumb up gives a video with no prior vote a 50% rating, not exactly the 100% rating the voter was aiming for.

      Once a thumb down has been given, it is actually impossible to get back to 100%. The closer you can get is 99%. Getting there takes 99 thumbs up (i.e. one vote every week day for 5 months) to balance the one thumb down.

      So the proposed solution falls a bit short.

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        Hello.

        The system wont let you undo your vote, but what you can do is visit the profile the next day and put a positive vote to the user. Your suggestion will be taken into consideration and the team will have it in mind :)

        Thank you for your feedback, this is the best way for us to improve our services.

        alfredosian commented  · 

        Dear Admin,

        Unfortunately a thumb up doesn't even out a thumb down.

        For example a thumb down + thumb up gives a video with no prior vote a 50% rating, not exactly the 100% rating the voter was aiming for.

        Once a thumb down has been given, it is actually impossible to get back to 100%. The closer you can get is 99%. Getting there takes 99 thumbs up (i.e. one vote every week day for 5 months) to balance the one thumb down.

        So the proposed solution falls a bit short.

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          Hello Manutdboy.

          Thank you for letting us know.
          The team will definitely look into the matter as we do not tolerate any sort of harassment towards our loyal members.

          We apologize for any inconvenience.

          Thank you.

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          alfredosian commented  · 

          With all due respect, the "we do not tolerate any sort of harassment towards our loyal members" line doesn't quite reflect reality.

          I have personally reported a (still ongoing) harassment campaign targeting CumControl101 and myself as early as April 2016. That's 15 months ago!

          With 8 years on the site, 210 videos and 2.5 million views per year for me, and 89 videos, 10 million views per year for him, I would think we both qualify as loyal members. Yet my repeated requests for help were denied. The response from Xtube Support included "there doesn't seem to be anything wrong", "are you sure you didn't just annoy someone", "well just disable voting on all your videos", "sorry, you can't disable voting on your profile", "can you provide screenshots" and when provided "sorry, there's nothing we can do anyways".

          At its peak the campaign involved 20 thumbs down per day on each of our profile and dozens of our videos, new as well as years old ones. 15 months later, the campaign still continues. In the meantime, both our profiles have endured thousands of thumbs, and our videos hundreds each. My profile rating went from 99% to 69%. Some of our videos went from >95% to < 35%.

          I provided Xtube Support with plenty of evidence, including a list of 200 obviously fake accounts involved (voting at the same time, similar name, similar profile picture, same last login time, ...) as described in these blog post:

          xtube.com/community/blog/detail/List-of-Attackers-2446132
          xtube.com/community/blog/detail/Q-Why-do-you-disable-voting-on-your-videos-2445841

          Still no action.

          So the unfortunate reality is you DO tolerate harassment towards loyal members.

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            alfredosian commented  · 

            The problem with dedicated daily haters as reported by Joe, Jsq, BD and Maxim in this and other threads, has been going on for a while.

            I first reported it to Xtube support in April 2016. That's over 14 months ago. The abuse on CumControl101's profile and mine has continued this entire time, accumulating thousands of thumbs down. Xtube did exactly nothing to help, despite repeated requests.

            No measure to help expose the haters (in fact for the longest time, authors of thumbs down didn't even show in the notification stream), prevent repeated votes, restore the original rating (I have screenshots), revert identified haters' votes (I provided a list of 200 accounts controlled by the hater), or even disable voting on profiles.

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              Hello Princeshowboy!

              Thanks for your suggestion, we will consider it! Please note that you cannot disallow ratings on premium content. Can you please provide the exact links of the videos which you have disallowed rating so we can investigate this. Thank you!

              alfredosian commented  · 

              I filed a support ticket about repeated thumbs down on my and other profiles 14 months ago.

              The attack is still going on 14 months later. In the meantime, thousands of malicious thumbs down have accumulated, with no help and no action from Xtube to either expose the haters, prevent repeated votes, restore the original rating, revert identified haters' votes, or even disable voting on profiles.

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                alfredosian commented  · 

                I first reported a similar attack on my and other profiles 14 months ago.

                In the meantime, the attack is continuing, with thousands of thumbs down accumulated while the team is 'looking into it'.

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                  alfredosian commented  · 

                  Unfortunately, this feature only protects the trolls who massively thumb down videos and profiles, at the expense of users who actually provide the content that keeps this site alive.

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